I have ( at least) 3 Cyp females who were born and raised in a tank with several predator fish (Calvuses and Synodonts) so I rarely have any kind of population issues. It's a sad method of population control but such is life. Last week I decided to try to get all three holding girls out into a maternity tank, this is the first time I've tried that in years so they've never had it done to them. I got two out and then gave up on the third. Of the two girls, one has a very large lower jaw so she's been holding longer or she just has more in there, and the other one was less pronounced. I went in yesterday and I saw five babies swimming around the tank and the one that had been less pronounced still was holding but she looked a little bit less mouthy. This morning I went in and she had released everybody else and now I have about 12 to 15 babies. The problem is the other one is still holding and I fear that she's never going to release them because she somehow remembers all the times that she has and immediately lost them. (I actually don't think fish are that smart but I am attributing this to her). I called the LFS and they said chase around with a net for a little while she might go ahead and spit them out. That did not work. They were not a big fan of stripping her, particularly since I've never done it before. I took the other female out put her back in the main tank and now mom and the 12 babies are the only ones left in the maternity tank. I'll check her again tomorrow but my fear is that her babies are going to starve to death because she's never going to release them . If anyone reading this has any better suggestions I'm open to them but I'm not comfortable trying to strip the fish although I could bring her to the LFS and they can try it.